Continuing to capture some of my own posts for posterity… these were written about 3 months from the date of this post.
When talking about issues of human error, so many factors come into play it is staggering.
If I bet someone’s life every day that I had unloaded and verified a weapon then there is a strong chance that sometime during my lifetime I would be wrong. This is because humans are not perfect, I am not perfect… no one is. Cops fuck this up. Marines fuck this up. FBI agents fuck this up.
Eventually, everyone will fuck up. This is a given.
That does NOT make gunplay, FOR ME AND MINE, so dangerous as to be "off the table. What you do is, like everything else, manage the risk. 99% of the time in my gunplay a single error simply would not be fatal even if I made one. The few times I do go through the whole motion to a trigger pull (extremely rare) the weapon is pointed in a relatively safe direction… so even a series of errors (by multiple people) would not result in serious harm. That last minuscule percentage of the time? It is a risk I have managed to the absolutely best of mine (and others) abilities and it is a risk I accept. Of course, I do NOT recommend this to anyone. I am just being honest about my life.
As for the fear of the "target"? Fear of weapons is often visceral and non rational. This is true in knife play as well. What you "know" and what your body "knows" are radically differing things. You can enhance this in a number of ways. it is trivially easy for someone to lose count of sounds they hear… or mistake one sound for another. Loading a spare magazine where they can hear it and then putting an EMPTY mag in the weapon, for instance or any one of a million other tricks.
Good times.
I think the whole point of many who feel this play is off limits is simply this – nothing would make it safe enough for them.
I am sort of interested by the emphasis some have on this as "play" in the sort of "is it really worth the risk for play". The answer is – yes, sometimes it is.
Properly done this is no more risky that skydiving, recreational Ju-Jitsu or a lot of breath play. Those risks are braved often int he name of play 🙂
The other answer is that there is a potential here for more than just play. How someone reacts with a gun at their temple has the potential to be much more intimate than play 🙂
Some thoughts.
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Knives are meant to wound and kill.
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Bullwhips were certainly never intended for use on humans.
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Half the Ju-Jitsu moves I use in breath play are intended to kill.
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Fire is certainly Not something to be taken lightly.
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Interrogation techniques are dangerous and were never meant for recreational use.
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Rape play is emotionally dangerous
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Scalpels and other surgical tools were not built as toys.
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Putting a restrained persons head under water is on non ones “this is totally safe” list.
In other words there is lot and lots of stuff I and many others do that are adaptations of tools and acts never meant to be used in the way we use them. Somehow though guns bring out a special brand of paranoia.
If I make a mistake with a gun, someone can die… that is true. Of course that is also true when I am cutting of someone’s air, doing one of any number of throws or using a knife on them. Realistically? There is a MUCH greater chance I will misjudge a breath play scene than that two separate mechanical safeties and a misjudgment on my part will cause that firearm to discharge when I don’t want it to.
Could it happen? Sure. I could also make a mistake when I am driving my girls to the store and kill us all in a collision with a bus.
Often you will get folks (well meaning usually) attempting to make declarations and issue orders about safety issues. They try and back that up with the assumed authority of their experiences or their jobs. “I am a cop, and I work with guns every day so just do what I tell you!”. I am unimpressed. I don’t usually get into the credential game, but I can play it well enough if I have to.
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Shooting guns competitively since I was 12
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Safety instructor at the local police run, youth oriented gun range
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Range officer for years and years
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Ex military
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Instructor for Police, Swat, FBI, corrections and military counter-terrorism teams (granted, mostly for unarmed tactics and close combat but weapons play a large role)
Doesn’t all that make me special? Here is the thing – none of that puts me in a position to tell others to just shut up and use my judgment instead of their own brains. Arguing from authority is just silly.
The fact remains that some of us do use guns in this way. We are not all stupid. We are not all fools. We are not all leaving a trail of bodies behind us. I know cops, FBI agents and military folks who play with weapons this way so frankly the “I work with guns, do what I say” routine doesn’t carry any weight with me.
If you are not 100% comfortable with this, don’t do it. See how simple that is? Just like knives, breath play, bullwhips, fire, rape, interrogation, permanent marks and a whole lot of other stuff that is less than entirely safe.
I am very, very honest about the risks. I am also very honest about how I mitigate and manage them.
All that aside… let’s talk about the loaded / unloaded thing.
Fortunately, even a weapon that the “target” knows is unloaded is still scary as all hell. That means it is possible to play with an unloaded weapon with the safeties on and still get a kick out of it.
Things get even more interesting with just a little bit of patter, and if you have just a little bit of skill with manipulating someone’s head. It is very, very easy to get someone to lose count of how many rounds you have in your hand even while you had them counting the as you loaded or unloaded the weapon. If they are blindfolded, this is easy to simulate.
And there you have it. The classic Dirty Harry moment.
“I know what you’re thinking. Did he fire six shots or only five? Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you’ve got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?”
Substitute “slut” for “punk” and baby we have ourselves a scene 🙂
Sometimes there is really no substitute for the reality of a loaded weapon. Read my post up above for the precautions and issues this brings with it. I choose my weapons carefully. That pistol with no real safety other than the trigger? Bad idea. My S&W .45 with two mechanical safeties and a heavy pull? Much better idea.
If my purpose in all I did was to mindfuck the submissive then sure, a replica would work just fine. The thing is, the submissive is not always the point of everything I do 🙂
I use a real gun because I >like< them. I like that it is real. I like that they know it is real… and I like how they react.
We can call this play – but it isn’t always a game 🙂
Reading my response, it seems a bit – terse 🙂 Let me expand some…
Pellet guns are fun – hell, I use my airsoft on the girls when the mood hits… but it is absolutely not the same thing as a real gun.
Could I fool THEM into thinking it was real? Sure. But I am not doing this for them 🙂
Enjoy!