{"id":50995,"date":"2003-04-06T04:39:24","date_gmt":"2003-04-06T04:39:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.soulhuntre.com\/items\/date\/2003\/04\/06\/moving-into-baghdad\/"},"modified":"2003-04-06T04:39:24","modified_gmt":"2003-04-06T04:39:24","slug":"moving-into-baghdad-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/legacyiamsenseiken.local\/2003\/04\/06\/moving-into-baghdad-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Moving into Baghdad\u2026"},"content":{"rendered":"

Just a little war stuff. The folks over at MeFi have a thread<\/a> going about the incursions of our forces into the center of [[wp:Baghdad]]. There is a lot of anti-war hand wringing, and a few of us trying to interject another point of view. How you can be so doom and gloom when your nation is winning a war and destroying a truly evil regime is beyond me. I also contributed to another thread<\/a> over there about the war.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

Night!<\/p>\n

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posted by soulhuntre<\/a> at 12:30 AM<\/a> PST on April 6<\/h1>\n

As I listened to WBAI<\/a> in NY today I was struck by how much panic seems to be happening in the “peace” movement – as the war In Iraq continues things are becoming clearer:<\/p>\n

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  1. The Iraqi people are begriming to show their support for the US now that they are gaining confidence Saddam will go.\n
  2. Saddam and his men were vicious, murdering thugs who ruled by fear born of torture and oppression.\n
  3. The propaganda machine of the Saddam regime is becoming more ridiculous as they broadcast denials of things that are, in fact, happening.\n
  4. Widespread military support for Iraq from it’s allies has completely and utterly failed to materialize.\n
  5. Civilian casualties are at an incredibly low level for a major military conflict. <\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

    So – with things going so well, why am I hearing voices on the radio today literally hoping that we lose in Iraq? Hoping for bloody defeat that will end in the re-establishment of Saddam control.<\/p>\n

    Why are people who claim to be pro “freedom” and pro “peace” hoping that Saddam regains power so he can slaughter anyone who appeared to defy him?<\/p>\n

    These protestors who claim that the US isn’t “free” because they get arrested for an hour or two when they block traffic openly support the continues empowerment of a man who would torture them to death in his country for the same demonstration.<\/p>\n

    Amazing… they SUPPORT Saddam as the “leader” of Iraq and claim that they live in a nation without freedom. So I guess murdering your political rivals is OK – just don’t arrest them for a few hours.<\/p>\n

    Insanity.<\/p>\n

    Clearly, there must be more to it and there is… They Hate Us, Too<\/a>.<\/p>\n

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    posted by soulhuntre<\/a> at 12:48 AM<\/a> PST on April 6<\/h1>\n

    Nope, soulhuntre…just noting that we shouldn’t forget that we’ll need to backup soon and sweat the small stuff if this “regime change” thing is going to work.<\/i><\/p>\n

    I agree entirely – winning a war is NOT the same thing as changing a country – especially one that has been under the dictatorship and oppression of a regime as brutal as the one in Iraq. But without winning the war the process cannot begin.<\/p>\n

    “situation he’s going to be dealing with in Iraq for the next 30 years.”<\/i><\/p>\n

    I doubt it seriously. I have very little reason to believe people will spend 30 years trying to make sure Iraq is put back under a totalitarian dictatorship.<\/p>\n

    You know, there have been a lot of nay-sayers on this. People telling us we’ll never get far, that we will be pulled into a battle with the whole Arab world, that the Iraq citizens will rise up en masse and fight for their adored dictator, that we will face instant international sanction and so on.<\/p>\n

    None of it has happened.<\/p>\n

    Accept it – we’re going to win, and it turns out that this is a good thing.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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