{"id":51005,"date":"2003-04-12T01:54:15","date_gmt":"2003-04-12T01:54:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.soulhuntre.com\/items\/date\/2003\/04\/12\/speaking-of-hating-the-rich\/"},"modified":"2003-04-12T01:54:15","modified_gmt":"2003-04-12T01:54:15","slug":"speaking-of-hating-the-rich-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/legacyiamsenseiken.local\/2003\/04\/12\/speaking-of-hating-the-rich-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Speaking of hating the rich\u2026"},"content":{"rendered":"

The folks over at [[Metafilter]] are having a discussion about taxes<\/a> and apparently how bitter most people are about the fact that some folks have money. I jumped in for a post but I don’t know that it will help – class envy is running pretty rampant. Anyway, my posts are below but you should go check the whole thread.<\/p>\n

Oh – and there was some more M. Moore stuff<\/a>.<\/p>\n

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posted by soulhuntre<\/a> at 9:41 PM<\/a> PST on April 11<\/h1>\n

Yeah, I have a LOT of sympathy for the wealthy. Can you tell?”<\/i><\/p>\n

It’s good to see that class envy is alive and well. I would have hoped that most folks would think a little bit more about economic issues than “screw em! I’m poor!” but that’s not going to happen.<\/p>\n

I am also a little unsure why it’s ok to take someone’s property just because you don’t perceive them to have “earned” it.<\/p>\n

Have you ever given something to a family member? A child? And what if some cop came and took that car you handed down away because they didn’t “earn it” themselves? would that make sense? of course not.<\/p>\n

Let’s say I make a million or five. I give it to my children, and then their lives don’t have to suck. Why, exactly, is that a moral problem? Why would that justify someone else with NO CLAIM ont hat wealth taking it away from them?<\/p>\n

So rich families tend to get richer – imagine that! Families, working to better their situation and that of future generations. I’m shocked! <\/p>\n

Make sure you tax all those evil rich folks into oblivion – then they’ll stop creating wealth and watch the economy collapse.<\/p>\n

Many things need massive concentration of wealth to happen, and many of those things are GOOD things. Rich people, rich companies and rich families are the driving force for that.<\/p>\n

So you can’t start poor and become rich? Probably not – then again, most people aren’t really equipped to add much value to society as a whole in a business sense so it doesn’t matter much.<\/p>\n

But if you ARE good, DO work hard and are above the norm… you absolutely can get stinking rich. And when you do – you can give your kids a head start unless the class envy the Democrats love to spread (you know, those poor little democrat political families) lets some government agency rob you blind.<\/p>\n

Me? I like flat taxes. All people, corporations, charities and so on … just flat the whole thing.<\/p>\n

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posted by soulhuntre<\/a> at 10:44 PM<\/a> PST on April 11<\/h1>\n

“It’s only your money because the rest of us agree that you are entitled to it; if society, as encoded in law, decides that you need to pay up, then you need to pay up.”<\/i><\/p>\n

In a technical sense? You’re almost right \ud83d\ude42 <\/p>\n

Legally? of course your right.<\/p>\n

Societies decision of what I own is second only to my ability to use force to keep something if society decides to take it. In the end, power decides ownership.<\/p>\n

Usually a society extends its power to cover personal property to avoid everyone having to have a fortress… but that is a convenience.<\/p>\n

Funny though how many people will applaud your definition when it means soaking the rich, but would scream bloody murder about “innate rights” if the government decided to take a printing press from an alternative newspaper \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n

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posted by soulhuntre<\/a> at 12:32 PM<\/a> PST on April 11 <\/h1>\n

(note: that time seems wrong by about 12 hours)<\/i><\/p>\n

“What a funny, touching, and important work that is.”<\/i><\/p>\n

Roger and Me? No, actually the film pissed me off.<\/p>\n

So M. Moore shows up at the offices of a huge company with a camera crew, looking like a student filmmaker and trailing a bad attitude and *gasp* doesn’t get in to see the person who runs the company?<\/p>\n

And you can base a career on this crap?<\/p>\n

*sigh*<\/p>\n

“Be yourself. Be an individual. Stand for what is right.”<\/i><\/p>\n

I agree – and that’s why I supported the war \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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